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James Thurber, Bookcases and Naked Women

  • The Paris Review has put many of its grand old interviews online, including a wonderful 1955 interview with humorist James Thurber

    A sample:

    INTERVIEWER
    You say that your drawings often don’t come out the way you
    intended?

    THURBER
    Well, once I did a drawing for The New Yorker of a naked
    woman on all fours up on top of a bookcase–a big bookcase. She’s up
    there near the ceiling, and in the room are her husband and two other
    women. The husband is saying to one of the women, obviously a guest,
    “This is the present Mrs. Harris. That’s my first wife up there.”

    Well,
    when I did the cartoon originally I meant the naked woman to be at the
    top of a flight of stairs, but I lost the sense of perspective and
    instead of getting in the stairs when I drew my line down, there she was
    stuck up there, naked, on a bookcase.

    Incidentally, that cartoon really threw The New Yorker editor,
    Harold Ross… He called me
    on the phone and asked if the woman up on the bookcase was supposed to
    be alive, stuffed, or dead. I said, “I don’t know, but I’ll let you know
    in a couple of hours.”

    After a while I called him back and told him I’d
    just talked to my taxidermist, who said you can’t stuff a woman, that
    my doctor had told me a dead woman couldn’t support herself on all
    fours. “So, Ross,” I said, “she must be alive.” “Well then,” he said,
    “what’s she doing up there naked in the home of her husband’s second
    wife?” I told him he had me there.

    (See the full interview in PDF format.)

    The cartoon in question was published in 1935; the Cartoon Bank has a copy of it here.

    Thurber didn’t remember the players quite right (it’s the husband, a man and a woman) and didn’t quote the caption quite correctly, either.  It was: “That’s my first wife up there, and this is the present Mrs. Harris.”

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